Beautiful as always John.. I wish there were more models that would actually come to a shoot with 'what can I contribute' in mind. I've only had a couple, the rest want to stand there and be told how to stand, where to put arms, how to smile-with no imagination of their own.
As far as releasing the model(s) names, I agree, doesn't and shouldn't need to be done in a public forum and absolutely not with out the model's permission. I'm like you John, I won't post an image that a model doesn't want posted. I usually make sure the model is happy with the photos and find out if there is any she doesn't want seen publically. I do that even with a release signed permitting me to post, modify, etc any or all the photos. To me, it's plain professional curtousy.
That's very well expressed, thank you. We owe it to these girls to express some humanity.
There is a programmme on TV that is called Top Model. The girls are chosen largely on their ability to adapt to a situation, be inventive and fit into their surroundings appropriately. Potential models should look at the programme ..
that said, I very largely follow my model around and capture moments, posed or not ... in the photo above, she was in the process of sitting down .. best wishes, John
Not only is this a beautifully shot picture, but also, as someone that's been in this situation several times, the body language and facial expression are absolutely perfect.
Is is not the man's prerogative to ID the models or not. He's the photog. These are HIS shots. Who the hell can argue with him on this. That's between him and the model. Nobody else has any rights to say a thing. Let it go.
Thank you for your kind support, but I don't think any harm was meant this time.
It is true however that people sometimes become aggressive for no apparent reason. There is a compulsion that is felt by some to measure up to others. The anonymity of the internet tends to feed this.
I do agree with the premise that one should have the right to defend a point of view that is one's own, under one's own work. The reason why I deflect attention away from the models is that they agree to pose on the assumption that the art will be criticized, not them and certainly not their bodies. Most of the girls I work with resent this profoundly, and a few have asked me to remove their photos after reading some of the comments here. Even photographers that work with professionals seem unable to understand this. I guess it's different if you pay a model for her time or ask one to contribute to a work of art. There is no question furthermore of naming them.
As far as releasing the model(s) names, I agree, doesn't and shouldn't need to be done in a public forum and absolutely not with out the model's permission. I'm like you John, I won't post an image that a model doesn't want posted. I usually make sure the model is happy with the photos and find out if there is any she doesn't want seen publically. I do that even with a release signed permitting me to post, modify, etc any or all the photos. To me, it's plain professional curtousy.
There is a programmme on TV that is called Top Model. The girls are chosen largely on their ability to adapt to a situation, be inventive and fit into their surroundings appropriately. Potential models should look at the programme ..
that said, I very largely follow my model around and capture moments, posed or not ... in the photo above, she was in the process of sitting down .. best wishes, John
Is is not the man's prerogative to ID the models or not. He's the photog. These are HIS shots. Who the hell can argue with him on this. That's between him and the model. Nobody else has any rights to say a thing. Let it go.
It is true however that people sometimes become aggressive for no apparent reason. There is a compulsion that is felt by some to measure up to others. The anonymity of the internet tends to feed this.
I do agree with the premise that one should have the right to defend a point of view that is one's own, under one's own work. The reason why I deflect attention away from the models is that they agree to pose on the assumption that the art will be criticized, not them and certainly not their bodies. Most of the girls I work with resent this profoundly, and a few have asked me to remove their photos after reading some of the comments here. Even photographers that work with professionals seem unable to understand this. I guess it's different if you pay a model for her time or ask one to contribute to a work of art. There is no question furthermore of naming them.